The XBroker: 'e-Lenders', When Thieves Compete You Lose

'e-Lenders', When Thieves Compete You Lose

 

There is an army of foot soldiers on the other side of these nice web façades banking on your ignorance. DiTech, Lending Tree, e-Loan, Quicken, and a slew of other 'e-Lenders' have created convienient web-sites to exploit and facilitate the deceptive nature and huge revenue streams of the mortgage industry.

Selling inflated rates that pay huge premiums at the expense of the consumer is still the name of the game and these guys are doing it more efficiently than ever.

More...E-lenders are likely to be much more expensive than a local mortgage brokerage or bank. Most of them are mortgage bankers (also called Direct Lenders), who have the very special privilege of not being required to disclose all fees associated with obtaining a mortgage. This is more than just opinion...click this comparison between DiTech and Wholesale Direct Rates.

The problem doesn't end with the e-lenders, their model is fostered by 'spider-web' - information aggregation (IA) sites like Bankrate.com and Lending Tree, which amount to little more than advertising platforms with a catchy URL and an interface that offers some generalistic industry information and remedial finance tools. Just about any broker or banker may advertise on or through an IA, thus making the site no more reliable than the paying broker/banker on the other side. Visiting any of these sites in hopes of researching accurate mortgage rate and program information is the absolutely futile equivalent of rate shopping through the phone book. Finding an honest and transparent broker or banker through an IA is analogous to playing Reverse Russian Roulette; 5 bullets, 1 empty chamber.

'Their' perception is your reality....Look past the message, through to the entity that's providing it. What's their incentive? Change your perception and 'their' reality!

 **Zillow has even recently added a Finance Tab which is a patch link to these 'misinformation' sites. Although we love Zillow, affiliation with such advertisement services defeats their message of 'helping people make smarter real estate decisions'.


32 commentsJeff Corbett • October 12 2006 03:42PM

Comments

Great Topic Jeff, the publice needs to know the truth.

Bankrate is already starting to get into trouble over the information on their website.  There was a lawsuit filed against them from my understanding.

The other thing companies do is guarantee their services in some way.  But when you look at the fine print, it is nearly impossible to make the guarantee.  I like to keep things simple, so I offer a guranty that is no hassle and does not include weasel clauses.  I would like to see those guys offer the same and not lose money!

Posted by Robert Ashby Photography over 5 years ago
Jeff, with the live links to those sites you are helpig them rank better and in turn supporting them. If you make this post Members only at least Google will not see the links ;) .
Posted by Ken Smith (Suburban House Hunters) over 5 years ago

Robert...Dead on!   Ill be making a post 'Guranteed Services' in the next few days.  How long have you been in the industry?

 

Ken...Thx for the tip..changing now! 

 

 

Posted by Jeff Corbett over 5 years ago
Boy I am seeing a lot of misinformation for consumers relating to real estate and mortgages.  Most are some kind of lead generation or aggregation site.  I have started writing about these for other blogs.  Zillow is also on my list because for much of the country the zestimate is just plain wrong and now they expect consumers to do adjust properties and pick their own comps based on my wrong information.  yuck!  waht a mess.
Posted by Teresa Boardman (Saint Paul Home Realty) over 5 years ago
Jeff I just sent Matt Heaton a message asking about adding the ablity to add "no follow" tags to our links within posts. Hope he has a solution.
Posted by Ken Smith (Suburban House Hunters) over 5 years ago

What a provocative title!

I would disagree with Ken inasmuch as the "open posting" will further rank you in the search engines along with the aforementioned "thieves".  You have a valid message that should be seen by the public REGARDLESS of the rankings.

If I understand your profile correctly, you intend to offer "correspondent" pricing to the public via a search engine.  Then the consumer will "hire" a broker to process the loan.  

Will the consumer come to us with 3-4 loan options, negotiate a fee and ask our advice about those loan options?  I'd be in favor of that. 

 

 

Posted by Jumbo Mortgage Capital in California/858-777-9751 over 5 years ago

Thx Teresa...Im a big fan of your blog!  'Found' you via Pat @ TransparentRE...

As Robert stated, the light is shining brighter on these 'mis'information sights.  Desperate times call for desperate measures, on their part   ;) 

Posted by Jeff Corbett over 5 years ago

Wow...comments coming in faster than I can respond!

 Yes, Brian, you are pretty close...shoot me an email and I can give you the 'Full Monty'....xbroker@thexbroker.com.

Posted by Jeff Corbett over 5 years ago
Great post Jeff. People are under such misconceptions about those companies.  One of Jacqui's clients had a loan from DiTech......it almost cost them their house. They didn't provide the loan and she went out of contract.....Thankfully they went to the lender she had recommended in the first place and they were able to get her financed...for a lower rate to boot. Ties in my post Why having a trusted lender is a must. Charles
Posted by Jacqulyn Richey - Las Vegas Real Estate (Prominent Realty Group) over 5 years ago
Jeff, welcome to ActiveRain.  Took a read through your posts you have made since joining two days ago, and there was some interesting stuff there.
Posted by Matt Heaton (Timu Corp - CEO, ActiveRain - Co-founder) over 5 years ago

I don't love Zillow...

Rich Jacobson, www.KitsapLife.com

 

Posted by Rich Jacobson Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker (Keller Williams West Sound Realty) over 5 years ago

Well sense you decided to go back to making this public you could just remove the live links to the sites and just list them as bankrate.com and lendingtree.com.

BTW, the chances of this post rating in for a term that would see any traffic for terms that will effect any of the e-lenders is next to none. Those are some very tuff terms that one little post from a blog will not be able to rate for. 

Posted by Ken Smith (Suburban House Hunters) over 5 years ago
great post Jeff - Also loved reading about the Roots of the X Broker. I will look forward to future posts!
Posted by Carl Guild - Central Connecticut Real Estate (Prudential Connecticut Realty) over 5 years ago
I've been in the business of selling real estate for twenty years and you taught me a worthwhile lesson today.  Thanks!
Posted by Geri Sonkin - Long Island Real Estate (Prudential Douglas Elliman) over 5 years ago
I agree with your warning about these lenders. In my market, Leavenworth Washington I tell all my buyers that we need to work with ..
A. Someone local who we can sit down and talk with if a problem arises.
or
B. Someone they have done business with before.
I sell a large number of homes to vacation buyers. If they have a trusted mortgage provider, why fix something that's not broken.
Posted by Geordie Romer, CRS, e-PRO (Windermere Real Estate / NCW) over 5 years ago
I have a hard time trusting a lender that I can't sit across from at a closing table...
Posted by Mariana Wagner ~ Colorado Springs REALTORĀ® (Wagner iTeam -Keller Williams Realty) over 5 years ago

Jeff,

I have never understood why people would rather do business with someone over the phone or internet when it comes to financing the most important thing you will ever own.  I can honestly say that when it comes to my clients, I make every effort to meet them face to face for the application, keep them up to date on a regular basis, and show up for the closing.

These large firms cannot promise that kind of attention.  Plus, I am a small business.  I don't need all the thrills of having a big office.  The bigger and more extravagent also means the more expensive.  For those guys to continue paying for the high rise office, the media attention, the marketing, etc, someone has to pay for it.  The sad thing is that it is John Smith down the street or Sally Jones in the next town over.  Smaller companies have the edge of giving their clients a much cheaper loan.  We need to go back to our grassroots and support the local mom and pop businesses.  They know how to treat people right.  Big business has never cared for the person, just their money.

Posted by Mortgage Financial Group, Inc over 5 years ago

Great Blog !!  I can't understand how anyone would want to get a loan online.  It's insane...

I actually thought that a lot of the online mortgage companies are actually "Lead Generators." 

 

Posted by Lauren Corna, Broker (Archway Realty, LLC) over 5 years ago

Buyers don't seem to realize the supposedly "low" rates offered by the online lenders are often just part of the sales pitch.  In my experience, the low rates usually increase by the time of closing, and the closing costs are outrageously high.  But, these lenders know that once you get to closing, the buyers is kind of stuck, or they may lose the house and their deposit.  I strongly recommend my clients use a local lender.  Not an online lead aggregator that sells their loan and information to the highest bidder.  I believe it will save them time and money in the end.

Posted by Don Fabrizio-Garcia (Fab Real Estate) over 5 years ago
It Really is the same old issue....Greed on the part of the vendor as well as the consumer and laziness on the part of the consumer.  Add them together and someone is going to very happy and someone is going to be toast.
Posted by Michael Roberts (Real Estate Professionals of Glynn) over 5 years ago
Great article and information... These types of lenders give us honest ones a bad name, my company(wells fargo) has a company policy and cap on ysp, we are loan officers can not exceed the set policy which is not very much, there are way too many hit and run lo's in this business.
Posted by Leo Namiot, CT Mortgage Specialist CT First Time Home Buyers, CHFA, FHA, VA (www.LeoLends.com: CT Low Rate Mortgages) over 5 years ago
Really good stuff untill the "I love Zillow" part. :) Zillow is just SO far off in some cases and I have had a buyer who already put a contract on a home call me upset because Zillow said it wasn't worth that much. Sheesh!
Posted by Joe Sampson (Exit Realty Experts) over 5 years ago
Without even considering the pricing issues, I can track 90% of closing delays to these e-lenders - apparently they don't quite get it when it comes to time is of the essence.
Posted by Tony Marriott, Associate Broker, REALTORĀ® (Haven Express @ Keller Williams Realty Professional Partners) over 5 years ago

Jeff,

Awesome, where else would you find a better put together blog and the truth.

Thanks for helping us all understand what is going on in the mortgage world.

Posted by Susan Trombley Broker/Realtor Raleigh, Cary, Wake Forest, Youngsville (Trombley Real Estate) over 5 years ago

Zillow...I 'love' their vision (and proprietary search bot/crawler) to aggregate property data for anyone to use free of charge...maybe admire is a more appropriate term....Their values are, in most cases, 'way-off'.  Hoping this improves as they add more and better resources to mine their data from. At the very least the property tax information available provides a quick and centralized resource for typically fragmented info.  I think Zillow has much bigger plans up their sleeve, but will keep my thoughts for now...Was very disappointed to see them 'fall' to the big $$ paid by Bankrate and Lending Tree to advertise on their site, knowing the underpinnings of these mis-lead-ing info aggregators.   I guess they gotta pay the bills :)

Thanks all for the comments, you have inspired some new post topics for me!

 
Posted by Jeff Corbett over 5 years ago

Those agent connect services are the biggest jokes.  I believe there will be a backlash on them. 

Woodstock Real Estate

Posted by Jennifer K Giraldi, Atlanta REALTORĀ® Atlanta Real Estate Expert (Solid Source Realty Atlanta) over 5 years ago
We always encourage our clients to use a local lender. E lenders are a nightmare!
Posted by Wilmington NC Real Estate & Relocation~ Ginger Sala (Wilkinson & Associates, Wilmington NC) over 5 years ago
Great stuff, you hepeld me out so much!
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